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Shanghai to Beijing overnight D train photos and Q&A

Three days before the official beginning of the Spring Festival holiday, I decided to join in the mass migration of the Chinese people from their work places back to their home town.  I had been working in Shanghai the previous 2 weeks and needed to get to Beijing for a few meetings and my outbound flight to my home “village” of Los Altos, California.

A picture I posted on Facebook prompted an email between me and my friend Christina.  I thought I’d share some more photos and some FAQ for foreigners thinking about taking this train.

Photos

I arrived on a rainy evening of Tue February 9 at the Shanghai Rail Station.  The taxi deposited me underground and I walked out.  The large plaza in front of the station was mobbed with people.  There were large tents outside the station with what I thought were destination names blocking the front entrance of the station.  As I approached the front entrance, I saw makeshift barriers set up to accomodate long queues as if we were entering.

My ticket was purchased in person a week earlier by a former colleague of mine here in Shanghai.  She had to show her ID to purchase the ticket but the ticket was not bound to her name and ID number.  Entering the station, I showed then entrance guard the ticket and then I then found my way to my train, the D306 departing 9:15 pm.

I then went through something that was like an airport security line.  It seemed less stringent than Chinese domestic airport security or International security.  I don’t recall being wanded nor do I recall taking my laptop out of my backpack.

After securuty, you go up the escalators.  I kept looking for information on where my train numbered D306 was departing, and found it on numerous large signs in the terminal.

Once upstairs, I walked down the hallway looking for the right gate number.

I then located the right gate here with the train number prominently displayed.  Underneath the sign, you see some kind of turnstyle but I think these were not operational and I just showed my ticket to some bored attendant who waved me in.

Seated in the large waiting area with hundreds of people, I waited until our train was called.  A large herd of people started to move toward the designated door and I did the same.  We then walked through the door and down the stairs.  There was an escalator but it wasn’t working.

I was in Train Car 4, Berth 24.  Yes, I know, lots of unlucky numbers. I found my way to Train Car 4 and entered the car.  This is the hallway outside the sleeping compartments that hold 4 people each.

There is a sign outside the sleeping compartment.  The large number itself doesn’t correspond to anything on your ticket.  The small numbers correspond to your berth number and show you which bunk you are in (upper, lower, left or right).

There are toilets in each car.  As far as I could tell, there were both Western toilets and Chinese toilets available.  I found them to be very clean to begin with and stayed surprisingly clean throughout the trip.  In fact, I thought the lavatory was usually cleaner than the ones on the United and Air China transpacific flights I take to get to China.

Whew, a Western toilet.

There is also a common washroom area that is toward the end of the sleeping car.  There is also a hot water dispenser there for you to refill the hot water container that is provided.

Communal sink for washing up

Here is the compartment. I wish I could have taken more photos of  but by the time I arrived my fellow compartment-mates were already there.  I ended up sharing with a young Shanghainese family with a 3 year old girl who had the 2 lower bunks, and 1 other businessman who had the other upper bunk.

I woke up and couldn’t sleep so I took some more pictures of the train.  I attribute the lack of sleep to jetlag more than the noise of the train.  The disadvantage of taking the train vs. flying to Beijing and staying in a hotel is that if you wake up in the middle of the night, there is no Wifi!

Dining car.  Even right after I boarded the train at 9:15,  I found that the car was pretty empty.  However, I did see people bring their own ramen noodles in styrofoam cups and prepare them inside their own compartments using the provided hot water thermos.

You can also save money by not purchasing a sleeping berth and going soft sleeper.  My guess is that some of these people would have wanted a sleeper but none were available.  Others are just saving money.

Some Questions and Answers (FAQ)

Christina asked me some questions so I just add them below in case you have similar questions.

Q:  What was it like to purchase tickets? Did you go through an agent, or just buy them last minute at the train station?

Around Spring Festival, the government tries to crack down on scalpers and brokers.  They required my Shanghai staff to go to train station to buy the tickets in person, showing an ID.  The tickets do not have a name on them so she could purchase it for me and I could travel on the ticket.  It is a physical ticket with a barcode on it, NOT an e-ticket.  Things might get a bit more lax after Spring Festival.  I would definitely NOT buy it last minute at the station.

I have also run into this site China Trip Advisor They have some train information. I have no idea if it is accurate or how good this travel agency is.  Here’s some info I cut and pasted from the site:

Bullet Night Sleeper Train From Beijing to Shanghai (source: ChinaTripAdvisor)

Train No.
From
Dep
To
Arr
Duration
Soft Sleeper
D321
Beijing
21:15
Shanghai
07:25
10h10m
USD128
D313
Beijing
21:20
Shanghai
07:35
10h15m
USD128
D307
Beijing
21:30
Shanghai
07:45
10h15m
USD128
D301
Beijing
21:35
Shanghai
07:50
10h15m
USD128
D305
Beijing
21:40
Shanghai
07:55
10h15m
USD128

Bullet Night Sleeper Train from Shanghai to Beijing (source: ChinaTripAdvisor)

Train No.
From
Dep
To
Arr
Duration
Soft Sleeper
D308
Shanghai
21:10
Beijing
07:25
10h15m
USD128
D306
Shanghai
21:15
Beijing
07:30
10h15m
USD128
D302
Shanghai
21:20
Beijing
07:35
10h15m
USD128
D314
Shanghai
21:25
Beijing
07:40
10h15m
USD128
D322
Shanghai
21:35
Beijing
07:45
10h10m
USD128

I paid RMB655 for a top bunk and I think the lower bunk was more expensive but not available, at I think RMB700 or RMB720 or so.  So it looks like this agency is taking about a $28/ticket commission or so.

I took the D306 from SH to BJ and the times listed by this site is correct. As I mentioned, it is 4 to a compartment with 2 upper and 2 lower bunks.  Very new train.  Very comfortable.

Also I think the ChinaTripAdvisor site is outdated about the trains arriving at Beijing Railway Station.  The 306 I took arrived at the NEW Beijing South Railway Station.

Q:  Are you on business or traveling with kids? If with kids, is it hard to keep the compartment to yourself, or do you have random people wanting to stay in there with you? When you buy tickets, are the beds/compartments assigned to your ticket?

I was traveling on business.  I shared with a family of 3 (who shared the 2 lower bunks) and 1 businessman (who slept in the other upper bunk).  There is a sliding door that closes the compartment from the hallway, and is pretty thick and reduces the hallway noise.  Once that door is closed no one else will likely come into your compartment.  If you book 4 bunks in 1 compartment, you will have plenty of privacy for the whole family.

The tickets have an assigned car and assigned bunk number.  When you buy the ticket, you just have to buy the 4 bunks that are all in the same compartment.

Q: Do you have any advice on how to travel by overnight train? Do you rest well? No one seems to be able to tell me much about it – the travel agent we’re working with is unfamiliar, and my dad has not had many good or recent experiences with China train travel.

The D306 train I took was very new and very clean.  Some things I saw others do and other things I observed:

  1. bring a small water bottle or thermos for tea.  There is potable hot water dispenser for free in each car.
  2. bring ramen noodles in styrofoam cup.  People would make ramen noodles in their compartment.
  3. I personally didn’t want to make noodles, so I brought 2 bottles of bottled water.  I used that to brush my teeth because the water from the sink faucets are not potable.
  4. Try to travel with suitcases that are not way too big.  I have a medium size Kirkland suitcase that is too big to carry-on a plane, but was small enough to fit underneath the beds where the storage is.
  5. There must be some kind of  “checked luggage” but I wasn’t clear how to do it. – What I did was wheel my bag from the waiting room at the train station to the train itself.  Often there are no elevators that are easily accessible and no down escalators (i was traveling Shanghai to Beijing, not sure about Beijing back to Shanghai as the new Beijing South Station is very modern and new).  Be prepared to carry bags down a few flights of stairs.
  6. It would be nice to have my own slippers as well.

Seat61 has a really useful page on the train routes.  Be sure to check it out.

Some other information on the configuration of the Shanghai Beijing overnight train based on my trip on D306:

The D306 CRH Train has:

  • Total of about 16 passenger cars
  • The first car and last are non-sleeper, soft seating cars that hold about 64 people (about 12 rows, 5 across, plus another 4 or so seats)
  • One car is the dining car, on our train it was Car 9
  • 13 are sleeping cars
  • Each sleeping car has about 10 compartments with 4 bunks each, for about 40 people per car.
  • Car 10 has a lounge and only 8 compartments, or about 32 people in this car.
  • Based on this estimate, there are 512 people on each D class sleeper train.

Any questions about traveling from Shanghai to Beijing by train?

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  1. Maggie says:

    Elliott,

    I am always skeptical of China train timetables I find online, but so far ChinaTripAdvisor has not failed me. Though I may have just set myself up just now…

    On longer trips or ones where people spend more time awake, the toilets get pretty dreadful, not surprisingly. If you have to buy food on the train, it’s expensive and NOT good. Bringing your own food is a must.

    I love the Chinese train system. I nostalgically keep all of my old tickets. Took a train from Lhasa to Chengdu during the Spring Festival crunch once–intense.

    Happy travels!

    • Elliott Ng says:

      Maggie,

      Yes, all online information gets dated so fast in China, doesn’t it?

      Also, I should have given a stronger caveat: The newest, nicest CRH (high speed rail) D-class trains from big city to big city (especially SH-BJ) shouldn’t be used to characterize the entire Chinese train system. I’m sure there are some pretty horrid experiences out there. Its always a problem when you use anything related to Shanghai and Beijing and project it out (consciously or unconsciously) to the rest of China. I should have mentioned that more strongly. I wish I could see some pictures of your train travels that are probably much more representative!

      Thanks!

  2. John says:

    Elliot,
    Thanks for all those the details! Seems like I ride an overnight sleeper train in China about once every 4 or 5 years and the trains continue to get more and more comfortable. However, I still fondly remember my first overnight trip in 1991 from Beijing to Shanghai in Hard Sleeper. Ah..Those were the days: surly attendants, terrible toilets, drafty compartments; but always friendly travel companions, sunflower seeds, and oranges.
    -john

    • Elliott Ng says:

      I’m sure you don’t have to go too far to find the “classic” train experience! Thanks for the evocative word picture you are presenting…sunflower seeds YEAH!

  3. Paul says:

    Elliott,

    You guys have an excellent blog but I wish you guys would update more frequently. Additionally, relative to your background, it would be great if you could touch on these topics as well.

    1. Common things Chinese people know but most foreigners do not about China culture, customs, history or other.

    2. Things to avoid doing or saying during meetings with Chinese business persons.

    3. What invokes trust for Chinese if your company doesn’t have a big brand? If you are not KFC, McDonalds, Nike, etc. and going to China but can’t afford to wait 10 years for your brand to be known then what can you do to promote? Maybe some case studies here?

    4. What are trends in China travel (since you run a web travel startup)? What are similarities and or differences between the Chinese consumer and a Western?

    5. What websites and or news is essential in understanding Chinese local business activities. I know about South China Morning Post, China Daily, Xinhua, Caijing. What about others and any points and or insights on what sections of that resource are more relevant and or the resource has more expertise in?

    Thanks for continued insight and excellence.

    • Elliott Ng says:

      Excellent post ideas Paul. We would love to update more frequently too…for me its the reality of having kids and also having to focus on figuring out my next business/idea/job/career have made it difficult to post as much as I’d like.

      I’ll be posting more about China travel, either here or on one of my other blogs (like Elliottng.com) so I can plan on doing #4.

      #5 is also something that I’d love to do. But it will take some more work to put that together. I’ll keep it in mind. Thanks!

  4. Wayland Tan says:

    Elliott,
    Thanks for sharing your personal train travel experience in China. The current D train between BJ/SH is more like a pseudo high-speed rail, which in my own opinion is still no match for a flight/hotel combo in terms of speed, convenience and comfort. The real killer is something like the current Wuhan–Guangzhou High-Speed Railway: top speed of 350km/h (220mi) and averaging 310km/h (190mph).

    My most recent D train experience was last November’s Shanghai – Nanjing trip just before going to Shenzhen for the travel summit. I had a large Samsonite 28″ luggage to carry in and out of the train stations. It banged the stairs so hard and so loud that one bystander said it was going to break. Fortunately it held up. Thank you, Samsonite!:)

  5. george cao says:

    Very nice post. A couple of things to add:

    The D Train between shanghai and beijing has one stop in nanjing or wuxi. For shanghai outbound trains, many people in the soft seats are short haul passengers, getting off after a couple of hours. I tried to be cheap once and bought a soft seat on the D Train from shanghai to beijing, and it was tough. Definitely not recommended.

    Car #10 on these trains has eight berths with only two bunks in each berth. The two bunks are on one side (lower and upper), and there is a small couch & a closet on the other side. The prices for tickets in these compartments are 1,475 (lower) and 1,300 (upper). To put this into perspective, the full fare price to fly from shanghai to beijing is 1130.

  6. kailing says:

    Yeap, I usually do that trip, but the D trains are lower, and therefore do not have overhead space for luggage in the bunks (you have to put your luggage under the bed -if it enters, or at the end of your berth), the tickets cost 150 RMB more for just 2 hours difference (at night, that is, wusuowei) than the common sleeper that has overhead space for luggage.

  7. NY Times ran an article a few week back about China’s explosion of high-speed train routes, 42 in all for a total of 8,000 miles of track, with the last connections set to be completed by the end of 2012. It’s when this is put in relative terms that the stat becomes so remarkable. By the end of 2012, the US will be completing its first high-speed route, for a total distance of 82 miles…

  8. Kriss says:

    I have to take that train too. I was wondering if there is no WIFI at all or just during night time. I need to have a Skype conference at 9:30pm that day.

  9. Kaps says:

    Dear Elliott, your blog was really informative and interesting. Thanx!
    However I am in a dilemma, and require some help!
    I am getting a part of my tour booked through a travel agent in China. I am traveling from Shanghai to Beijing by overnight train. My agent has suggested train no. T104 which costs me USD 75. However, after reading about the D trains, I was keen on traveling on one of them instead, (D322/ D308). My agent got back to me saying that the soft-sleeper ticket on the D-series train is RMB655(upper berth)& 730(lower berth), but the booking charge is RMB50/ticket which is charged by the railway ministry. So if I wanted to upgrade to D-series train, the cost would be RMB(730+50)=RMB780=USD120(lower berth), USD110(upper berth).

    I wanted to clarify, whether the railway ministry actually charges the extra RMB 50?

    2ndly, if it does, then the jump form USD75 to USD120 is a bit much for me. Please can you tell me, is there a Big difference in the T trains and the D series trains? If so, please can you give me an idea.

    3rdly, If there is no such charge, then I would not like to make the booking through the agent. Instead, is there any other way/or web site through which i can book the tickets and pay the normal rate?

    Your help will be much appreciated. I am traveling on 1st May 2011. Which is probably holiday time, so I cannot risk, waiting till I get there.

    Warm Regards,
    Kaps

  10. Sandeep says:

    I need to know that if you dont know chineese how do you come to know your destination has arrived and where do you smoke in a chineese train?also how much time in advance should I reach a station?

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